[2:47] Pat: “I’m trying to show how quotidian the practice of journalism becomes in this new media space.“
“Journalists should be comforters of the afflicted and afflicters of the comfortable” – [wasn’t that supposed to be Jesus??? ]
uses of Twitter for mainstream journos-
- beat reporting. Real-time, geo-location,
- sharing of actual content – photos/video/short reporting,
- a helpful enlightener of the contex
- adds sociability and searchability – a great way to find people, who want to be found.
- It’s not a challenge, it’s an enrichment
- “can you help?” – really fast feedback/enrichment.
- direction to longer form journalism. Twitter becomes your ‘portable research group’ for the working writer.
- Who verifies these flows of info? (reference to post-modern ‘truth criticism’)
- What’s the value in claiming Authority?
- How collaborative and distributed are journalists willing to be about their process? [Pat’s brilliant – this is great stuff – a very smart man, go and read his book!]
- Can we break out of “140”? [must sent Pat a link to WordPress’ new P2 theme]
[3:00] Pat talking about Hue and Cry’s business model – “use what is ubiquitous to drive people to what is scarce”
“twitter/google/etc make news ubiquitous. If that’s the case, what is scarce in journalism? Twitter ubiquitizes news. Murdoch’s plan is defeatist. The authority of trad news can be a value added, but they’ll have to think cleverly about commoditizing it. EG Mon-Fri you’re the web-news thing, and at weekends, the paper version is sellable…”
[3:11] Onto the 1st Panel – (list of contribs here)
Q: How much will twitter and microblogging change the way breaking news is sourced globally by news orgs?
A: not really worth repeating so far. Twitter’s great, twitter’s crap, blah blah.
Nick Halstead: “It’s about anyone using tech to put up the information, for the news sites to interpret and present” (my precis)
“The web is moving into real time.”
“News has been real time for years, it’s called ‘live broadcasting’. WE have a new way of publishing data, but we still need authority and checks. You trust people to do it right, but because something’s possible, that doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do”
Bill Thompson: “we need to step back and look at not what twitter tells us, but what real time news tells us about the way we work – and it does mean that sometimes we go to press before we’re certain. So how do we integrate these tools in a reputable way?”
Mike Butcher: “we’re putting a lot of trust in one platform (twitter) – and it’s not working right now. If we put so much of our news gathering onto one platform, that’s a serious danger.”
Darren Waters: “The BBC can’t rely on one external platform for distribution. We’re still grappling with how we as BBC journos use twitter, as it collides with the BBC code. Davos tweets were being 2nd checked before being posted. We haven’t cracked it in terms of our editorial policy.”
Bill Thompson: “I’m an external voice, I have a disclaimer… But for those who work in the Beeb, doesn’t personal tweeting undermine the veil of objectivity that journalists are supposed to be, because we share our lives on twitter?”
Darren Waters: “one of the great things about twitter is that sharing of information. Common sense caution is required in sharing info. Can you hold opinions and be objective as a journo? yes you can.”
Advice for sourcing news:
- BT: “plugging into twitter is like being a seismologist. The ripples in the ground tell you something is happening but don’t tell you what. Twitter is not the journalism, it’s the sensor. I let the information all flow over me. I’m the seismologist looking for things ,but I don’t believe it until verified. It lets me know where to go. Research can begin on twitter, but it must never end on twitter, just like Wikipedia“
- “twitter’s just a great tool for communicating – talk, share, interact.
- Nick Halstead: “real time news has been headline grabbing, in the US, and various services are tracking it. including google. You can search for trending news stories. Use keywords, then look for the story. It’s not just about real time, but also relevancy.“
- Darren Waters: “google have been shaken up by the effect of twitter, how it brings the real time web to people with more relevance. They’re thinking now in terms of milisecconds. You need to separate the personal from the structural. We follow trends in news, structurally. Personally, we follow those people who are relevant as people, following who they follow“
- Mike Butcher: “We have no checks and balances at techcrunch [no shit] (descends into tedious nonsense) …we use whatever tools appear. Tech journos are at the cutting edge [yawn] I use blah blah (lists obvious set of tools). There’s an issue of getting stuff out as quickly as possible, and our readers will fact check us. We know we’ll get called out by our readers. We go for it, like breaking news, or we going to be behind.“
- Darren Waters: “If you let your audience fact check, why not let them just write the site? where’s the quality? There’s only so many times you can be wrong before your audience leaves… “
[3:35] Questions from the floor – not really all that interesting (sorry for editing to this degree, I just can’t be bothered to type a lot of this stuff…)
[I’m amazed by the similarities in the circular nonsense talked about the future of journalism compared to the future of music]
Sleepydog – “microblogging joins content to conversation – one AND many. The story + bigger conversation, brings them together.” [YAY Toby!!!]
[twitter is/isn’t journalism. yadda yadda Twitter is words on a screen, ordered in a certain way. It’s a data-set, the usage is a cultural construct, or a series of cultural constructs. Enough with the semantic reductionism]
and with that, it’s coffee time… after that, I’m heading home to teach. Short but sweet.by