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	<title>Comments on: Lily Allen Invents The Criminal Commons License</title>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

I&#039;m not suggesting this is a well-thought out position from her :)

I&#039;m guessing - hoping - that she&#039;s entirely inconsistent in it. That when an old lady thanks her for helping her cross the road, she doesn&#039;t demand cash in return. That when someone tell her they love her, she doesn&#039;t send them a bill representing what she thinks that love is worth...

of course not. She&#039;s as multi-currency as the rest of us. She just has an industry-induced blind-spot when it comes to music. I wonder if she refuses all free CDs from friends in the industry. Again, probably not. And neither should she, if no-one else in the industry does. She&#039;s not a music industry rethinker, she doesn&#039;t appear to have studied this. She&#039;s someone who when interviewed says whatever comes into her head, and sometimes those things sound insane.

Which makes it all the more embarrassing for the FAC and the journalists who defended her nonsense file-sharing stance, I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting this is a well-thought out position from her <img src='http://www.stevelawson.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing &#8211; hoping &#8211; that she&#8217;s entirely inconsistent in it. That when an old lady thanks her for helping her cross the road, she doesn&#8217;t demand cash in return. That when someone tell her they love her, she doesn&#8217;t send them a bill representing what she thinks that love is worth&#8230;</p>
<p>of course not. She&#8217;s as multi-currency as the rest of us. She just has an industry-induced blind-spot when it comes to music. I wonder if she refuses all free CDs from friends in the industry. Again, probably not. And neither should she, if no-one else in the industry does. She&#8217;s not a music industry rethinker, she doesn&#8217;t appear to have studied this. She&#8217;s someone who when interviewed says whatever comes into her head, and sometimes those things sound insane.</p>
<p>Which makes it all the more embarrassing for the FAC and the journalists who defended her nonsense file-sharing stance, I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Suomela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael Suomela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Lily. This is hilarious:)

But the serious side of this is the sort of consumerist thinking - that you have to somehow be a music consumer and not be able to share music except if you are doing so for a profit - for decidedly nonmusic goals.

Ok, so everyone knows that Lily is a tool or a fool. But how do you tell people that they don&#039;t need to have sales metrics in order to know what is good music to listen to. That you can enjoy music whether it is selling tons or it&#039;s not selling at all - that the proof of the value of music is in the music itself. In fact, come to think of it - many of my most valued listening experiences as a music student were live bootleg tapes of superior musicians jamming and those tapes were strictly passed from friend to friend with no monetary compensation whatsoever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Lily. This is hilarious:)</p>
<p>But the serious side of this is the sort of consumerist thinking &#8211; that you have to somehow be a music consumer and not be able to share music except if you are doing so for a profit &#8211; for decidedly nonmusic goals.</p>
<p>Ok, so everyone knows that Lily is a tool or a fool. But how do you tell people that they don&#8217;t need to have sales metrics in order to know what is good music to listen to. That you can enjoy music whether it is selling tons or it&#8217;s not selling at all &#8211; that the proof of the value of music is in the music itself. In fact, come to think of it &#8211; many of my most valued listening experiences as a music student were live bootleg tapes of superior musicians jamming and those tapes were strictly passed from friend to friend with no monetary compensation whatsoever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Gilmour</title>
		<link>http://www.stevelawson.net/2009/11/lily-allen-invents-the-criminal-commons-license/comment-page-1/#comment-1854</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Gilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, just maybe, rather than a carefully-thought-out, nuanced position that she&#039;s arrived at only after hours of wrangling with the ethical implications of a variety of stances, this is Ms. Allen opening her gob and &quot;speaking her brains&quot; to that low-quality musical dishrag, the NME?

She&#039;s never given much evidence of extreme cleverness in any other interviews, so why break the habit now...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, just maybe, rather than a carefully-thought-out, nuanced position that she&#8217;s arrived at only after hours of wrangling with the ethical implications of a variety of stances, this is Ms. Allen opening her gob and &#8220;speaking her brains&#8221; to that low-quality musical dishrag, the NME?</p>
<p>She&#8217;s never given much evidence of extreme cleverness in any other interviews, so why break the habit now&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Lily ever chatted with fans at the merch table?  It would seem not.

The value of your music from the individual&#039;s perspective is not at all connected to how much they are willing to spend.  It would seem that Lily needs to ask her fans direct - i.e. put on a gig herself, and assuming that everyone there &#039;values&#039; her music - she will no doubt see that a good proportion of those fans might not have bought the record, download, etc - and may instead have received it for free (i.e. from a friend, or illegally downloaded).

...I&#039;d like to see those figures, actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Lily ever chatted with fans at the merch table?  It would seem not.</p>
<p>The value of your music from the individual&#8217;s perspective is not at all connected to how much they are willing to spend.  It would seem that Lily needs to ask her fans direct &#8211; i.e. put on a gig herself, and assuming that everyone there &#8216;values&#8217; her music &#8211; she will no doubt see that a good proportion of those fans might not have bought the record, download, etc &#8211; and may instead have received it for free (i.e. from a friend, or illegally downloaded).</p>
<p>&#8230;I&#8217;d like to see those figures, actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Darby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Darby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Lily has finally finished the record industry kool-aid:

&quot;That&#039;s right Lily: it doesn&#039;t matter whether YOU get any money for your music, as long as SOMEONE does.&quot;

Because the important thing is that the consumer pays, not that the producer gains.

Suddenly reminded of an old song...

&quot;Robin Hood, what a crook!
Gave away what he took!
Charity&#039;s fine, subscribe to mine,
Get out and pick a pocket or two...&quot;

And bearing in mind how Lionel Bart was treated by the business, doubly apt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Lily has finally finished the record industry kool-aid:</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s right Lily: it doesn&#8217;t matter whether YOU get any money for your music, as long as SOMEONE does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because the important thing is that the consumer pays, not that the producer gains.</p>
<p>Suddenly reminded of an old song&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Robin Hood, what a crook!<br />
Gave away what he took!<br />
Charity&#8217;s fine, subscribe to mine,<br />
Get out and pick a pocket or two&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And bearing in mind how Lionel Bart was treated by the business, doubly apt.</p>
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		<title>By: caro</title>
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		<dc:creator>caro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well reflected steve..keep lobbing the spanners in the rusted ole works :&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well reflected steve..keep lobbing the spanners in the rusted ole works :&gt;</p>
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