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		<title>By: Charlie Elwess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Elwess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the band&#039;s called Hold Fire and the song&#039;s &quot;Power Cut&quot;. We did a gig with them recently. See a pic and order it from www.myspace.com/weareholdfire  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the band&#8217;s called Hold Fire and the song&#8217;s &#8220;Power Cut&#8221;. We did a gig with them recently. See a pic and order it from <a href="http://www.myspace.com/weareholdfire" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.myspace.com/weareholdfire?referer=');">http://www.myspace.com/weareholdfire</a>  <img src='http://www.stevelawson.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bill Canty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Canty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you’re not into playing live at all, the current ‘wisdom’ that recorded music is now an ‘advert’ for your live gigs sounds pretty hollow.&quot;

That gets my vote for Understatement Of The Decade.

And... I can remember when touring bands here in Oz typically lost money because of the prohibitive costs of touring, but made up for it in record sales, so count me confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you’re not into playing live at all, the current ‘wisdom’ that recorded music is now an ‘advert’ for your live gigs sounds pretty hollow.&#8221;</p>
<p>That gets my vote for Understatement Of The Decade.</p>
<p>And&#8230; I can remember when touring bands here in Oz typically lost money because of the prohibitive costs of touring, but made up for it in record sales, so count me confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainstorming New Models for Music Careers &#124; IndieLab - Promoting Independent Indie Music in the UK and Beyond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainstorming New Models for Music Careers &#124; IndieLab - Promoting Independent Indie Music in the UK and Beyond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the problem is limited to the musicians themselves unfortunately.

There appear to be many people out there working with them who don&#039;t know what they are doing and could possibly be doing more harm than good in the long run.

A recent article I wrote covers some of this - http://www.somojomagazine.com/?p=486

I&#039;ve been amazed this week in that I&#039;ve read a blog entry from a record company about how they can get on and finish the work on the next album now they have new speakers, £27 computer speakers that needed some adjustment to the sound cards eq to get them to sound right!
I&#039;m no audio or recording expert, but that doesn&#039;t give me the impression that they are very professional or know what they are doing.
I&#039;ve also read some blog entries about how cool the new iPhone is as artists will be able to shot and edit their promo videos on it!

As you say Steve some musicians spend months and sometimes large amounts of money to make records and are then seem to be &#039;happy&#039; with crap promo photography, bad videos and awful artwork.

Who is to blame?

The musicians for accepting sub standard work or the people they work with supplying it?

I know a lot might come down to budget at the end of the day (just an excuse?), but if they have the right information about what is required, they can ask the right questions and make a better selection of who they choose to work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the problem is limited to the musicians themselves unfortunately.</p>
<p>There appear to be many people out there working with them who don&#8217;t know what they are doing and could possibly be doing more harm than good in the long run.</p>
<p>A recent article I wrote covers some of this &#8211; <a href="http://www.somojomagazine.com/?p=486" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.somojomagazine.com/?p=486&amp;referer=');">http://www.somojomagazine.com/?p=486</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been amazed this week in that I&#8217;ve read a blog entry from a record company about how they can get on and finish the work on the next album now they have new speakers, £27 computer speakers that needed some adjustment to the sound cards eq to get them to sound right!<br />
I&#8217;m no audio or recording expert, but that doesn&#8217;t give me the impression that they are very professional or know what they are doing.<br />
I&#8217;ve also read some blog entries about how cool the new iPhone is as artists will be able to shot and edit their promo videos on it!</p>
<p>As you say Steve some musicians spend months and sometimes large amounts of money to make records and are then seem to be &#8216;happy&#8217; with crap promo photography, bad videos and awful artwork.</p>
<p>Who is to blame?</p>
<p>The musicians for accepting sub standard work or the people they work with supplying it?</p>
<p>I know a lot might come down to budget at the end of the day (just an excuse?), but if they have the right information about what is required, they can ask the right questions and make a better selection of who they choose to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Pär Berglund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pär Berglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One key to providing the fans what they really want (and I&#039;m not talking about the music) is to talk to them, and ask them what they want. This is obvious for most other businesses but often not in music biz, where the discussions often are generalized.
There are large variations and one needs to be creative. Why not be creative together with the fans.
&quot;So you&#039;re not interested in CD:s, but you do miss going through the booklet?, reading the lyrics. Ok then, so let&#039;s offer some booklets then...&quot;, just to take an easy example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One key to providing the fans what they really want (and I&#8217;m not talking about the music) is to talk to them, and ask them what they want. This is obvious for most other businesses but often not in music biz, where the discussions often are generalized.<br />
There are large variations and one needs to be creative. Why not be creative together with the fans.<br />
&#8220;So you&#8217;re not interested in CD:s, but you do miss going through the booklet?, reading the lyrics. Ok then, so let&#8217;s offer some booklets then&#8230;&#8221;, just to take an easy example.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Steve&lt;/strong&gt;

Great point - I do think that having a strong visual image is important. I&#039;m amazed how many musicians spend months on making a record, then get their mum to take some pics with her phone for the promo, and do the album art in MS Paint... Working closer with designers would be a great idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Steve</strong></p>
<p>Great point &#8211; I do think that having a strong visual image is important. I&#8217;m amazed how many musicians spend months on making a record, then get their mum to take some pics with her phone for the promo, and do the album art in MS Paint&#8230; Working closer with designers would be a great idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got it - &quot;Digital non-music merchandise from musicians&quot;  -  no hear me out, it sounds crazy but..  well  not much. My suggestion is to provide services such as membership sites providing a kind of virtual backstage access pass in return for a monthly subscription. There&#039;s a kind of overlap between the  mainstream fans  and aspiring musicians which occupies an in between niche which mixes information products with music education and networking.

Well known musicians only need to put their name to it and show up on private channels from time to time, whereas starting out  musicians will need to provide real value through knowledge sharing and remote instruction.
This is going to be too much for one individual &#039;unsigned&#039;  musician though, we&#039;ll need to get together into teams to tackle the task seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got it &#8211; &#8220;Digital non-music merchandise from musicians&#8221;  &#8211;  no hear me out, it sounds crazy but..  well  not much. My suggestion is to provide services such as membership sites providing a kind of virtual backstage access pass in return for a monthly subscription. There&#8217;s a kind of overlap between the  mainstream fans  and aspiring musicians which occupies an in between niche which mixes information products with music education and networking.</p>
<p>Well known musicians only need to put their name to it and show up on private channels from time to time, whereas starting out  musicians will need to provide real value through knowledge sharing and remote instruction.<br />
This is going to be too much for one individual &#8216;unsigned&#8217;  musician though, we&#8217;ll need to get together into teams to tackle the task seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re really happy to help any independent or unsigned solo artist or band in any way we can.

We have the radio site with &#039;live&#039; music playing only independent and unsigned artists and the magazine which we&#039;ve just started which will has interviews with independent and unsigned musicians, artists, photographers and film makers will be in the next issue onwards.
There are plans for &#039;specials&#039; featuring different individual bands which we will be making available to them for free so they can give them out at gigs or sell them to make a few pennies.
There is also the tv channel which currently only music videos but we will be adding animations and short films very soon, just as soon as I get the time to upload them.

The idea is to bring all the different creative arts together in one place so they can make contact with each other and hopefully some interesting collaborations will happen in the future.

If anyone has any ideas of what else we can add to the mix, then we&#039;d love to hear them.

Have a great day
Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re really happy to help any independent or unsigned solo artist or band in any way we can.</p>
<p>We have the radio site with &#8216;live&#8217; music playing only independent and unsigned artists and the magazine which we&#8217;ve just started which will has interviews with independent and unsigned musicians, artists, photographers and film makers will be in the next issue onwards.<br />
There are plans for &#8216;specials&#8217; featuring different individual bands which we will be making available to them for free so they can give them out at gigs or sell them to make a few pennies.<br />
There is also the tv channel which currently only music videos but we will be adding animations and short films very soon, just as soon as I get the time to upload them.</p>
<p>The idea is to bring all the different creative arts together in one place so they can make contact with each other and hopefully some interesting collaborations will happen in the future.</p>
<p>If anyone has any ideas of what else we can add to the mix, then we&#8217;d love to hear them.</p>
<p>Have a great day<br />
Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: the other steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>the other steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of musicians could generate a lot more income from merch by hooking up with visual artists/designers and producing ranges of products that visually define them as an artist.

There are people who will buy any old crap t-shirt by a band/artist just because they like them, but there&#039;s an awful lot more people out there who will buy something because it looks really cool, even if they&#039;re not THAT into the band. Make something look really good and people at a gig with money in their pocket are a lot more likely to be tempted to make a purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of musicians could generate a lot more income from merch by hooking up with visual artists/designers and producing ranges of products that visually define them as an artist.</p>
<p>There are people who will buy any old crap t-shirt by a band/artist just because they like them, but there&#8217;s an awful lot more people out there who will buy something because it looks really cool, even if they&#8217;re not THAT into the band. Make something look really good and people at a gig with money in their pocket are a lot more likely to be tempted to make a purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Pellington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Pellington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a band that did a song called Powercut or powersurge, something like that, they  had USB drives with the track on that looked like Duracell AA battery branded with the bands details on. Thought that was cool.

The bonus of this is that people can drag the tracks off the drive and still use it as a normal usb stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a band that did a song called Powercut or powersurge, something like that, they  had USB drives with the track on that looked like Duracell AA battery branded with the bands details on. Thought that was cool.</p>
<p>The bonus of this is that people can drag the tracks off the drive and still use it as a normal usb stick.</p>
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